tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28568136.post1247643183821370587..comments2022-09-28T23:42:10.623-04:00Comments on On the Big Sea in a Little Boat: Recreational Adventure LiabilityEric J.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03283004292694451559noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28568136.post-49470833487007728262011-05-01T07:27:42.000-04:002011-05-01T07:27:42.000-04:00A ship in harbour is safe, but that is not what sh...A ship in harbour is safe, but that is not what ships are built for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28568136.post-60927027491998538092010-05-14T13:04:46.696-04:002010-05-14T13:04:46.696-04:00Eric, I read your above posting on club trips, CAM...Eric, I read your above posting on club trips, CAM, and non-certified volunteers with interest. From what I gather the three largest New England kayak clubs (RICKA, CONNYAK and NSPN) all follow the CAM model. I happen to be a fairly recently minted ACA kayak instructor, but I have not yet actually taught a course. I have actually participated in several open ocean RICKA trips in the past. Your comments would seem to suggest that if one has a certification and participates in a club trip, in which an incident occurs, they would be more likely to be sued, particularly if they are perceived as being in a 'leadership' role. That is quite sobering. On a related note, the kayak club in my region (Upstate, NY) runs their trips on a very loose CAM model. This club had a trip recently (early May 2010) on a local reservior that most New Englanders would consider extremely tame. Without going into great detail, due to local weather conditions, water temperature, and lack participants with any safety training they almost had a fatality. In reality their application of a CAM model did not work. They are doing a great deal of post incident introspection, but regrettably they seem to be hanging their hat on lack of participants with VHF radios. Based on my reading of the details of the incident (I was not there) they had many more issues than just no radios. Yes, in fairness radios could have helped, if used effectively. However, there were many more basic issues involved, such as the weather conditions, no buddy system (no one counting heads), the group becoming highly separated, total lack of communications, little safety training or practice on self rescues, etc. I could go on. It will be interesting to see how this club ultimately responds to the recent incident and how they modify there application of CAM.tvcriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783962624586691653noreply@blogger.com